Post by forrob on Mar 3, 2024 2:30:26 GMT
Public personal statement on the fact that the thread "Public debate on Auroras concerts in Israel 2019 (2)" got locked.
locking this thread, there was a reason the first one was locked. forrob please do not open another one. The moderators have decided that while it is ok to post AURORA's actual comments in regard to such topics, discussion of them (and in turn other people's comments in regard to her actions and comments) is outside the scope of the forum.
Dec 19, 2023 at 6:02pm AksWarrior said:
I am closing this down.
I will simply refer to rule 6 of this forum:
Discussions on, or jokes about politics or religion are not allowed.
We welcome anyone regardless of heir political views or religion as long as they keep it outside of this forum which is about Aurora.
I think Aurora's statement said all it needed to say, she stands for the innocent victims on both sides and condemns the violence perpetrated from both sides,... and we can all agree that what is at this time going on is a tragedy of epic proportions.
There is nothing more that needs to be said.
I am closing this down.
I will simply refer to rule 6 of this forum:
Discussions on, or jokes about politics or religion are not allowed.
We welcome anyone regardless of heir political views or religion as long as they keep it outside of this forum which is about Aurora.
I think Aurora's statement said all it needed to say, she stands for the innocent victims on both sides and condemns the violence perpetrated from both sides,... and we can all agree that what is at this time going on is a tragedy of epic proportions.
There is nothing more that needs to be said.
Subject of this thread is the public depate (political discussion) on Auroras concerts in Israel
2019-11-14 and 15 at Barby, Tel Aviv [link1] [link2]
In the first part of this thread [link] different articles and documents including statements by Aurora and her team were documented.
As pointed out by @akswarrior in the previous thread to this subject [link], this is not a place for private (political) discussions, but a place for the documentation of Auroras work as an artist and the resonance by media, fans and the public in general!
2019-11-14 and 15 at Barby, Tel Aviv [link1] [link2]
In the first part of this thread [link] different articles and documents including statements by Aurora and her team were documented.
As pointed out by @akswarrior in the previous thread to this subject [link], this is not a place for private (political) discussions, but a place for the documentation of Auroras work as an artist and the resonance by media, fans and the public in general!
I posted in the thread 5 posts:
1. post: Article by NEWSinENGLISH.no
Title: Aurora bashed for concerts in Israel
Author: Nina Berglund
Date: 2019-10-03
Title: Aurora bashed for concerts in Israel
Author: Nina Berglund
Date: 2019-10-03
2. post: Chronological compilation of published statements and articles in the first part of this thread.
[....]
3. post: Article by Samtiden
Title: Unngår å nevne Israel-konserter (engl.: Avoids mentioning Israel concerts)
Author: Redaksjonen / The editorial team
Date: 2019-10-02, update: 2021-11-10
Title: Unngår å nevne Israel-konserter (engl.: Avoids mentioning Israel concerts)
Author: Redaksjonen / The editorial team
Date: 2019-10-02, update: 2021-11-10
4. post: Auroras significant Facebook-post from 2019-11-15 and Aurora's responses to some of the comments.
5. post: Public statement (open letter) by PACBI - BDS movement (@pacbi) on twitter, 2019-11-19
All this posts are documenting Aurora's work as an artist and offical public response to her work and public statements.
As I see it, an important part of this platform is to document Auroras work as an artist and that includes also her "political" engagement.
Why the first part of this thread got closed:
The reason was that members of the forum started to post their personal political opinions and as rule 6 of this forum writes: "Discussions on, or jokes about politics or religion are not allowed. We welcome anyone regardless of heir political views or religion as long as they keep it outside of this forum which is about Aurora."
Interestingly enough the persons who posted the most personal political opinions and breaking rule 6 of the forum was phanner in at least 10 post.
phanner writes: "The moderators have decided that while it is ok to post AURORA's actual comments in regard to such topics, discussion of them (and in turn other people's comments in regard to her actions and comments) is outside the scope of the forum."
What means "other people's comments in regard to her actions and comments"?
That would for example mean, that it's not possible to post on the forum any published article, which touches Auroras political engagement and religious ideas.
As we know, Aurora is and sees herself as a very political and spiritual artist. Her engagement for the protection of the environment, Indigenous peoples, women rights, LGBTQ+ rights, Black Lives Matter, Ukraine, Gaza, Women in Iran, Racism, etc. are an important part of her personality and artistic identity.
So, not to post published statements by newspapers, magazines and offical institutions and organisations is nonsens and devalues this documentation! (That doesn't include post's by private persons on social media and by us as content-creators.)
So the moderators are invited to overthink their idea. It's not particularly sophisticated.
I will continue to document Auroras work as an artist and public person (which includes Auroras "political" activities) and the public's response on her work.
As some of us know, creating posts with valuable content is quite a lot of work and we all do it voluntarily, even we know that just very few people will see and appreciate it. So, if someone has problems with one or another post, you are welcome to contact me and we can discuss the subject. If you are not interested in a discourse it's also ok. You just have to let me know and I will stop posting.
Love
Rob
